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 Post subject: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:36 pm 
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Written by Nabjac. 2008-05-09

Some information about SmartWi and Premiere.

The Premiere smartcard can work in two different modes: 'Ir**to mode' and 'Nagravision mode'.

Ir**to mode is mainly used by old receivers like the D-Box, the AlphaCrypt CAM and most unofficial receivers and CAM's.

All Ir**to receivers uses a unique CAMKEY to scramble the data sent from the smartcard to the receiver. When more than one receivers is used, the CAMKEY is replaced on the fly, it takes less than 100ms. With a Premiere smartcard it takes 3 seconds to set the CAMKEY, so the SmartWi is only usable, if all receivers/CAM's uses the same CAMKEY.

You can use the attached firmware + SmartWi Display, to view the CAMKEY of your different receivers and CAM's.

Nagravision is used by all newer Premiere supplied receivers. They are often with the logo 'Geeignet für Premiere'. The firmware '2.42 T=1 Premiere' is made for Nagravision receivers.

You can not mix 'Ir**to' and 'Nagra' receivers when you use SmartWi.

We have not received any details about the new N3 cards, so it is impossible to guess if we will be able to support them. Please let us know, when one of you receive one of the new N3 cards.

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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:10 pm 
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Hello Freddy,

I'm from Belguim, we have two DVB-C providers over here IN-DI http://www.in-di.be/aansluiten/wat-heb-ik-nodig and Telenet http://telenet.be/342/0/1/nl/thuis/televisie/wat-heb-je-nodig.html.

The both use Alphacrypt cam' s and Nagravision smartcards, them recievers are originating from ADB (Advanced Digital Broadcast) http://www.adbglobal.com/.

I have tried to get SmartWi working with different firmware 's loaded even '2.42 T=1 Premiere' on one of these configurations but no luck. Do you have any suggestions or a fix, for these configuratons? Thanks in advance.

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kverhoev


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:10 pm 
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so the SmartWi is only usable, if all receivers/CAM's uses the same CAMKEY.


So i suppose there is a way to change/set the camkey? Because my three receiver-cards all show different camkeys...
The point is: actually smartwi is working in my config (2x Firedtv+2xAlphacrypt), BUT if I watch channels on both tuners, I often get the error "Channel Scrambled " (not always though)after a while....

Please advice!

cheers

joystick


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:28 pm 
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SmartWi works fine, if you have different CAMKEY's, they are just replaced on the fly.

In a Ir**to system, a CAMKEY can be replaced in the smartcard within 100ms.

The problem is the German (Nagravision) smartcards, they have a built-in penalty on 3 seconds, every time you replace the CAMKEY. So if you work with more than one receiver, the system becomes unstable.

If your two CAM's have the same CAMKEY's, there will be no problem with two tuners working at the same time.

nabjac


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:18 pm 
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Hello,

since 3 Weeks I use the new Nagra3 Premiere Card with a alphacrypt light modul (and Humax Icord HDTV-Receiver).

Now, I want use the Premiere Card with two more Receivers.

Here my question:

Can I use smart wi with the new Premiere Card an 3 Receivers at the same time?

Before i buy the Smart wi, I need a posible answer.

Thank you for an fast answere.

onix10


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:16 am 
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:D :D Yes you can.I use 4 Cards at the same time.


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:36 pm 
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Where can I get the Software '2.42 T=1 Premiere" ? I can't see it on your download page or attached here as described.
Currently I'm using 2.41 T1 for Premiere, which works quite fine, but only the HD channels dont' work.


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:34 pm 
downloadpage smartwi
www.nikolime.dk/smartwi/
greeting from belgium


  
 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:36 am 
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From the "download page", posted by leunens, following the link "Premier" you can read:

"Version 2.42 will not do EMM upgrade, so the smartcard must be upgraded in a receiver, once in a while. This will be fixed in the next version."

Is that official info? If so, is there any indication when the "next version" will appear? For me it seems like there is not so much development activity at the moment, but maybe that's a wrong impression.
It would be great if that would indeed be fixed.


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:03 pm 
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Im using the 2.46 Beta11 T=1 with three Alphacrypt CAMs and a S01 Premiere card.

It works mostly perfect and is a great enhancement to the 2.42.

Thanks a lot for this firmware.


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:10 pm 
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2.46 Beta11 T=1 doesn't work for me at all with a S02 card.
I can't notice any difference between 2.41 and 2.42 T1 either, both work quite fine for me except the HD channels. Could you please fix the problem with the HD channels in the next version ?


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:25 pm 
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Hello,

Hello,

I would like to buy Smart Wi to use it for premiere.

To clarify the situaion and to confirm my ideas it would be my pleasuer to get an answer on the following issues:

1. I use a dbox2 and Humax Pr Fox C

Am I right that I cannot use both recivers if I use Smart Wi ?

2. If the answer for question 1 is "Yes"

Would it be better to use 2 or 3 Dboxes (Ir**to Mode) or to use 2 or 3 Humax Receiver (Nagra Mode)?

What would be the easiest solution without any difficult settings (camkey...)?

Thanks for all your answers in advance !!


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:31 pm 
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My smart Wi (8.0) works in the SD Option perfectly, but make trouble in the mode Premiere HD.

I use the 2.41t01 FW and Alphacrypt 3.18 FW, Receiver are Sony LCD DVB-C with MPeg 4 Codec!


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:54 pm 
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2.46 Beta 11 T=1 doesn't work for me, with my S02 Card, either.

I have slight problems with my two alphacrypt lights. If alphacrypt light 1 is active and alphacrypt light 2 get's active, the stream of alphacrpyt light 1 stops/stutters and eventually will continue to work after some time... that may be ok, while watching, but is somehow annoying if you are recording something. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Information about SmartWi and Premiere.
New postPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:29 pm 
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sprawdz to;premiere nagra http://beta.smartwi.net/download/SmartW ... emiere.swi


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